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what's up everybody

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happy thursday uh

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pretty

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um i just made that today

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and i thought it was pretty cool

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um pretty creepy sounds some cool uh

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footage going on so

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i'm glad you liked it too what's up uh

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arno k42d

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we got uh jos

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who didn't thank me today which is very

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weird

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very interesting

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arnold uh benji

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yeah jason what's up

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mega what's up jay what's up you made it

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out to a live

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that is super cool i'm glad

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um that you did

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i hope you guys like yesterday's show

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yesterday was pretty cool i had a great

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time um with uh

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mr robert knight

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who is definitely you know jay put it

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best

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you know talk about right place right

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man that guy is always in the right

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place at the right time

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and he has a fantastic life

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and i'm pretty jelly

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what's up jay how you doing everybody

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super happy that you uh came today

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although it jumped in a way

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oh okay although i jumped in way too

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late yeah i was like yeah it didn't jump

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around but i i didn't mind it

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okay 42 d yeah what's up everybody

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awesome awesome we're going to have a

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good time today and we're going to get

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into some very interesting stuff

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most definitely

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um so

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what's kind of happening these days is

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i'm sure you've heard about it

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um but basically it started at um i

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think it was like the embassy in havana

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or something but we had some diplomats

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in cuba

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you know they came back with some very

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uh symptoms

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um some nausea some headaches all that

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kind of stuff and they labeled it

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havana syndrome jefferson lee what's up

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don't see you in here often thanks for

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coming that's awesome

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and they've been trying to figure out

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what it is for a while now um

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at least probably a couple years or so

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and they haven't really that we know of

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michelle what's up awesome australia we

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for event you know not for havana

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you know what makes me think that

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report a handful of uap appear to

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demonstrate advanced technology in 18

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incidents described in 21 reports

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it bigger if you prefer to read it

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that i think that's kind of the story

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may have had some sort of biological

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such have reported different things

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kind of associated with that now whether

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it's intentional or not or like a

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byproduct or whatever that's always the

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but it's interesting

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on this direct energy stuff because it

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just sounds so familiar to the symptoms

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these people had that had the uap

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and then you read that preliminary

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frequency so if we want to see what kind

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of effects radio frequency direct energy

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i should preface this with

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um some things i found back in the 60s

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or 70s seem to

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that there wasn't much of an effect on

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keep that in mind

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so it looks like these pages are a

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little messed up here so that's okay

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because we can just skip right in

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to this

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yeah unless i can find it

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it's going so smooth

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all right so signs and symptoms radio

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here's what they have

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the vast majority of rfr exposures

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result no symptoms at all because of the

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large safety margin in existing

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standards most people suffer no harm and

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are not even aware that they were

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overexposed upon learning that they had

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been exposed some people develop acute

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anxiety reactions and require

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reassurance appropriate

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interesting so they freak out because

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they think they got exposed

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but that doesn't necessarily mean they

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have any

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you know real

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symptoms the most common

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non-psychological symptom of

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overexposure

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is internal warm sensation located in

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the region of the body exposed to the

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beam

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the warm sensation turns into pain if

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the exposure is great enough and the

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person remains in the beam

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most often an individual upon feeling

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warmth will move away from the beam and

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thereby limit the exposure because

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metals are highly conductive and tend to

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concentrate electromagnetic fields

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additional heating could occur in the

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local vicinity of the metallic objects

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such as jewelry air

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jets

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metallic implants therefore localized

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hot sensations and burns are possible

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even with whole body exposures for

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example a hot sensation at the site of a

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metallic watch band

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um

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at the time of all their exposure might

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be the only complaint from the person

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who'd have been blah blah so

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medical consequences of thermal injury

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depend on what tissues are involved how

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well they are perfused and whether or

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not they can regenerate especially

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vulnerable to overexposures are the

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nervous system

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interesting

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and the lens of the eye

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which is interesting because if we go

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back in time

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around the soccoro

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instant

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there is an episode well actually all

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throughout that time of the 60s there

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were john kael wrote about this there

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are many symptoms of

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um

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stuff with people's eyes like in pink

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um so in the system in the lens of the

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eye neither of which regenerate heating

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of

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symptoms such as nausea vomiting

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headaches loss of

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equilibrium

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malaise malaise and fatigue are related

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to the heating of the central nervous

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system some of the latter symptoms may

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be the result of anxiety rather than

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overheating long-term effects can occur

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with high exposures

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in addition to physiological problems

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some of the acute symptoms can persist

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long

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after the exposure

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or psychological sorry also organ damage

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may not be detectable until

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someone after an overexposure for

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example cardiac um

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cataract formation dryness in the mouth

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and palpitations may not occur

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and linda puts this right on the head

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for us

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obvious effects experiencers abductees

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interesting

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now what i'm here doing this i'm not

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here saying that

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you know our air force or you know

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humans are doing this to us

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all i'm doing is showing the

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similarities

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and what you want to take from that is

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what you take from that

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you know if anything it proves or i'm

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trying to prove

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that these ufo

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instances

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come with

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this kind of

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radio frequency

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type of

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biological

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issues

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if an individual received an

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overexposure to his head it is possible

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for signs and symptoms similar to that

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of a post-concussion syndrome to develop

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um

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except for the localized burns

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present there is very little objective

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medical evidence to substantiate damage

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from a possible overexposure most of the

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symptoms are non-specific and it may be

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impossible to determine if they are in

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fact due to overexposure

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so basically where this leaves me is

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it leaves us is a bit of a conundrum

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to be quite honest with you

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right i mean

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for people who

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you know maybe don't know too much about

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um

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[Music]

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you know ufos and such

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say

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you know it's all

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it's all crap and you you know the air

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and they would have a pot to piss in so

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to speak looking at this

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but that's also

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you know not taking into account

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all the other

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you know things that go along with a

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experience

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but

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that doesn't mean some

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things that happen

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like havana syndrome or something else

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may not be

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a different country because obviously we

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can see

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that they have the capability

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to do that

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or cause those symptoms

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so

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and this brought me to

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something that i wanted

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you know so i'm reading this i'm

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thinking about this and i wanted to

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a while ago when i was researching

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and it was this and i found it on the

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caa website it's called moscow's bigger

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and this had to do with the

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us's strategic defense initiative that

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they had and the soviets were really

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pissed off about that basically

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um

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and they did something

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they they were working on stuff

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themselves and if you go back

467
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in time and even in like 40s 50s or

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whatever they're looking into

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psychotronic weapons

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um

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and

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you know remote viewing all that kind of

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stuff spoon bending so to speak for ages

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and because they were looking at it they

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kind of made us look at it because we

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didn't want to fall behind and we put

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immense efforts into studying

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um that stuff

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and how far along they were and then

480
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but

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this here so

482
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and it says indirect

483
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directed energy technologies the soviets

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are

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in a comparable or highly competitive

486
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position with respect to the united

487
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states the cia says

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in laser technologies there is an

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essential equivalence though the soviets

490
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are pursuing some types of lasers which

491
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the u.s has

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either abandoned or ignored for weapons

493
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applications and particle particle beam

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and microwave technologies the soviets

495
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may have the edge over the us and some

496
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the soviets have already begun to

497
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develop the test laser weapons they have

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built over half a dozen major research

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and development laser facilities and

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test ranges with an estimated 10 000

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scientists and engineers associated with

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the laser weapons program says the cia a

503
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us reconnaissance satellite recently

504
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spotted two more large laser facilities

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being built on the mountaintops near the

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soviet afghanistan border

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some analysts

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believe that these radar sites may be

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used to attack

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u.s satellites

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and could be upgraded with new tracking

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systems

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then we have a dis disinformation

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campaign that's interesting

515
00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:07,029
but this isn't talking about what i

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wanted to talk about which is called the

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uh

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so moscow signal was an event where

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basically our

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in the moscow embassy

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and

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they found

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that they were getting hit with these um

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electromagnetic waves and they're very

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weak and they weren't causing any issues

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was at time as time went on the

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signal got stronger

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and stronger

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so here's just a little brief

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report on it soviets have been

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radiating the u.s embassy moscow for

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more than 20 years the purpose of this

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radiation has never been understood

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approximately a decade ago medical

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research was instituted to determine

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whether the signals were harmful that

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research now produced significant

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indications of hazards signals strengths

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blah blah blah then we'll go down to

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this uh

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eight hours a day

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for an eight hour day

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so in may 1975 a new much stronger

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signal was detected though previous

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signals have not been considered a

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health hazard the state department felt

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that a possible hazard

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now existed as a result medical

549
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scientists who have been following

550
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soviet research in this area dispatched

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to moscow in july to make an on-site

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so basically

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what they said here is they couldn't say

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unequivocally that it was not a hazard

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00:24:01,110 --> 00:23:57,830
is directly related to the type of

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technology that we looked at first

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from that the air force looked at

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and the human

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symptoms caused from being hit with it

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rfp

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radio frequency direct energy

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so that's what this is

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in 1975 soviets are doing it to

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you know in the embassy there

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these uaps

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have been

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um they have found

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emanating

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this radio frequency

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these abductees

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00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:40,960
other experiencers have had these same

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this gets a little

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into

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the fray

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the brainwashed attempt by russians it's

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it's a

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i'll just scroll through it so if

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there's a chance that you do want to

579
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read it you can go back and pause it and

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00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:07,200
read it or whatever or just message me

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00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:09,279
or something and i can share it with you

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00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:11,360
uh really easy to find no it's on the

583
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and this is just a little bit more from

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that same report as a result the medical

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in this area their findings were that

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while the power densities to which

587
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:29,520
embassy staff were being subjected were

588
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:31,200
not substantially different from those

589
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:33,600
observed earlier in the year possibility

590
00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:35,520
of the existence of a health hazard was

591
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:37,840
increased due to increased exposure

592
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:39,840
duration certain changes and signal

593
00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:42,000
characteristics and other medical

594
00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:44,880
considerations

595
00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:46,640
based on the findings state department

596
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:48,400
instituted an effort to get the signal

597
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:51,200
shut off and resolve to brief all

598
00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:53,039
embassy staff on health hazard

599
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:56,720
possibilities now this just sounds

600
00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:58,320
exactly

601
00:26:05,830 --> 00:25:59,760
like what they're dealing with with the

602
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,430
so

603
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,430
that's all i really the point of that

604
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:13,679
was was i wanted to

605
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,590
where these things align

606
00:26:24,789 --> 00:26:22,830
and what kind of makes this complicated

607
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:24,799
right

608
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:27,919
i mean think about it if uh uaps or ufos

609
00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:29,360
are really

610
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:30,640
you know giving off this kind of

611
00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:32,080
frequency

612
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:33,679
who's to say

613
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:35,520
it would be that

614
00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:36,880
or

615
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:38,960
another country that could do that

616
00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:40,640
you know

617
00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:42,240
now we have people coming out

618
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:44,720
politicians that are saying things like

619
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:46,880
um

620
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:48,880
they found no evidence of a sustained

621
00:26:51,029 --> 00:26:50,000
coordinated

622
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:51,039
effort

623
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:53,039
from

624
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,310
so

625
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:02,710
what does that leave us that leaves us

626
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:09,269
um

627
00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:11,840
i don't know a single person a non-state

628
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:12,799
actor

629
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:20,360
what are we going to find out though

630
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:22,799
[Music]

631
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:24,640
the other thing i could say is

632
00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:26,240
like that preliminary assessment and

633
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,159
everything like how did they get away

634
00:27:33,909 --> 00:27:30,480
with putting that on a preliminary

635
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:33,919
assessment and not telling other people

636
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:36,960
the american public

637
00:27:50,630 --> 00:27:43,909
linda's got a good point they could have

638
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:52,549
we go back through the early blue book

639
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:54,720
investigations that's clear that we

640
00:28:01,510 --> 00:27:58,559
found and gone through on this show

641
00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:01,520
that they have um definitely

642
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:03,360
you know i can't say

643
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:04,960
in regards to

644
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:07,600
you know direct energy or anything but

645
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:09,679
meteorites they were definitely

646
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:12,240
researching the meteorites

647
00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:15,120
for a weapons program

648
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:17,120
and their um

649
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:23,269
i mean we we found that out that's not

650
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:25,840
making that up that's looking at

651
00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:26,960
um

652
00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:33,279
they would study the

653
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:35,679
you know the

654
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:37,679
the re-entry lines basically on the

655
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:39,679
meteorites

656
00:28:42,710 --> 00:28:41,600
because it would help them you know

657
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:42,720
design

658
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:45,600
their reentry missiles or vehicles

659
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,039
space vehicles

660
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:49,679
so we know and they had a huge just

661
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:51,840
research and development aspect to the

662
00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:55,440
ufo program since the beginning

663
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:57,360
now if they're not finding anything what

664
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,110
you know

665
00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:07,269
so

666
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:12,149
just wanted to do that and now we're

667
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:14,799
gonna go to part

668
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:16,880
two of this episode

669
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:20,880
where we take a listen to some old

670
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:26,470
from some sightings and today we're

671
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:27,360
doing

672
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:29,919
two navy sightings one from

673
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:35,909
i don't think it was recorded then but

674
00:29:39,269 --> 00:29:37,840
that's uh when the incident when the

675
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:39,279
incident happened

676
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:40,480
it's not as

677
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:42,320
easy to hear as the other one which is

678
00:29:46,710 --> 00:29:43,440
going to be

679
00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:46,720
a u.s navy spy ship off the coast of

680
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:50,480
san fuego harbor cuba january 1973

681
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:52,960
where three cigar objects popped up on

682
00:29:58,310 --> 00:29:55,760
their radar which you know if you ask me

683
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:58,320
tic tacs

684
00:30:01,430 --> 00:30:00,240
you know to kind of relate it to these

685
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:01,440
days

686
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:04,640
um but we're gonna listen to those and

687
00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:05,760
yeah

688
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:17,269
i picked this boat yep

689
00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:20,159
when i was aboard ship up and and

690
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:22,320
seen this spot in the moon that it

691
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:24,000
blotted out part of the moon and then

692
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:26,320
disappeared i say i was on the starboard

693
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:27,840
wing lookout

694
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:29,600
it was a very moonlight night the moon

695
00:30:33,269 --> 00:30:31,200
was high

696
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:33,279
figuring 60 degrees straight overhead

697
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:35,039
the moon was at about four to five or

698
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,640
fifty degrees

699
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:38,240
and bright

700
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:40,080
something blotted out some of the light

701
00:30:44,950 --> 00:30:40,880
uh

702
00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:44,960
words if the ship were to turn and go

703
00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:47,039
the other way it would throw the moon at

704
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:49,520
the 50 degree angle on only on the other

705
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:51,600
side see of the ship

706
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:53,679
so it would be natural and uh

707
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:55,120
or it wasn't trying to look around i

708
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:56,480
wonder what was happening is the light

709
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:58,320
so i glanced up at the moon here part of

710
00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:00,799
the moon was like blocked down

711
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:02,720
at the same time i think i looked and it

712
00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:04,720
just disappeared

713
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:06,720
into a smaller and smaller spec

714
00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:08,640
immediately didn't take over two or

715
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:11,120
three seconds of the thing into the

716
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:13,039
immediately like our

717
00:31:16,070 --> 00:31:15,120
orders were aboard shift report anything

718
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:16,080
you see

719
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:18,320
and anything you hear and anything you

720
00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:20,480
think you see anything you think you

721
00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:22,720
hear so here was something i thought i'd

722
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:24,080
seen i didn't

723
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:26,240
i didn't really believe that

724
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:27,760
your first observation of this doesn't

725
00:31:30,549 --> 00:31:29,600
appear quite large in relationship to

726
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:30,559
the moon

727
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:31,360
uh

728
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:36,399
the extent that it was actually

729
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:38,159
some of it extruding the shadow

730
00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:40,159
extruding beyond the edge of the moon

731
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:42,480
and then uh

732
00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:45,039
a ways over into the moon

733
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:46,720
the only question is the officer dick

734
00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:48,640
asked me about it how close do you feel

735
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:50,000
this this

736
00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:52,399
shadow that you thought you've seen uh

737
00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:54,080
was to the ship

738
00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:56,000
i said i don't know sir he said make a

739
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:56,799
guess

740
00:31:58,830 --> 00:31:57,840
i said

741
00:32:02,470 --> 00:31:58,840
quarter of a

742
00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:02,480
mile and the only thing that that

743
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:03,360
that

744
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,720
has ever even

745
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:06,720
made me remember in other words probably

746
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:09,039
that night or the following day i would

747
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:10,320
have forgotten

748
00:32:13,750 --> 00:32:12,240
never remember it the only thing that

749
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:13,760
ever caused me to remember it was

750
00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:16,080
looking for thomas to get in this poker

751
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:18,799
game that's radarman

752
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:20,880
there and he's got his radar tore apart

753
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:22,799
there looking for a bogey in it that it

754
00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:25,440
appeared the night before and then uh

755
00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:27,600
when he picked his paper up to start uh

756
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:30,399
charting his boogie it was gone

757
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:32,080
he said the vogue is still got to be in

758
00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:34,399
there again we just

759
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:36,640
laid his machine back and we went and

760
00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:38,640
played

761
00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:40,080
i don't know what he found his building

762
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:48,630
so that

763
00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:51,200
unfortunately cuts off there

764
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:52,640
but

765
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:55,279
pretty interesting 1945 and it's

766
00:32:59,350 --> 00:32:57,200
interesting then because anything you

767
00:33:01,909 --> 00:32:59,360
see anything you think you see anything

768
00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:01,919
you hear anything you think you hear you

769
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:03,760
report you report it

770
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:05,360
um and

771
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:07,279
you know such a great testimony so i'm

772
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:10,480
just gonna go straight to the next one

773
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:12,640
and yeah

774
00:33:16,389 --> 00:33:14,960
this one is

775
00:33:20,710 --> 00:33:16,399
um

776
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:22,630
just describe what happened

777
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:24,960
i was on a spy ship and we were south of

778
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:27,519
san francisco's cuba 14 miles off the

779
00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:28,559
coast

780
00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:30,799
and uh on the radar

781
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:33,600
this uh cigar-shaped blip appeared

782
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:36,000
coming out from singapore eagles harbor

783
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:37,600
and then another one and another one

784
00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:39,840
there ended up being three of them

785
00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:41,679
and we were on a collision course with

786
00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:43,039
these things

787
00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:44,880
uh however it was a

788
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:47,679
full moon night we couldn't see anything

789
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,120
on the water we couldn't see anything

790
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:51,360
with the night observation devices

791
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:53,279
there was nothing on the water

792
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:54,320
with our

793
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:56,720
air radar we couldn't see anything i

794
00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:59,039
even had the sonar directed in that area

795
00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:01,360
and we couldn't detect any noise coming

796
00:34:04,830 --> 00:34:02,640
from that area and yet we had these

797
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:04,840
flips on the screen

798
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:08,079
um we remained on a collision course we

799
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:09,599
called general quarters

800
00:34:14,470 --> 00:34:12,159
and um everybody and it was at night by

801
00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:14,480
the way yes and uh

802
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:16,000
everyone became prepared the captain

803
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:17,599
came to the bridge

804
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:19,280
and um

805
00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:20,800
nothing happened these things just

806
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:21,919
passed

807
00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:24,320
over us through us under us whatever

808
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:25,679
they just went right through the center

809
00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:27,359
of the square screen

810
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:29,839
and just right on out past this

811
00:34:34,629 --> 00:34:32,480
there's no visual settings uh no visual

812
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:34,639
sites all we had was was radar returns

813
00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:36,399
and i also had the radar checked out

814
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:40,159
everything was good on all radars

815
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:43,679
now in that area

816
00:34:54,149 --> 00:34:52,149
well it was a top secret thing at that

817
00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:54,159
time it probably still is

818
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:56,960
and there were several russian ships

819
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:59,280
very advanced ships in the area

820
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:01,200
along with

821
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:03,359
the best of what cuba had in that san

822
00:35:06,710 --> 00:35:05,359
francisco harbor

823
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:06,720
so um

824
00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:08,240
and i thought it was interesting as far

825
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:10,480
as i as i know

826
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:11,920
no report was ever made of it because

827
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:13,200
the captain didn't want to seem like a

828
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:14,960
fool

829
00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:18,000
um but the whole ship was aware of this

830
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:20,000
okay

831
00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:22,640
and what was the month of that it was it

832
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:27,920
was about january of 73. okay

833
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:29,040
in fact i think that's when it was

834
00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:31,520
january 73.

835
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:32,720
i had never really thought anything

836
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:34,160
about these things until that happened

837
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:35,599
and i just

838
00:35:40,630 --> 00:35:38,560
thought that was very very strange

839
00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:40,640
okay we appreciate the report okay thank

840
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:46,069
the guy's like okay that's good

841
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:48,880
uh a couple things that stood out to me

842
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:52,480
there was yeah that there was multiple

843
00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:54,480
there's three

844
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:56,320
and

845
00:36:00,790 --> 00:35:58,480
you know he mentioned the the russian

846
00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:00,800
ships again or not again but he

847
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:02,480
mentioned the relationships it's just so

848
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,400
interesting that we find ourselves in

849
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:06,720
the same kind of spot

850
00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:08,130
where people are thinking

851
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:09,359
[Music]

852
00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:14,870
you know

853
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:17,520
um and then the other aspect of where it

854
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:20,240
wasn't reported

855
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:21,839
because

856
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:23,920
the captain didn't want to feel like a

857
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:26,880
goofball basically

858
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:30,160
there is clear evidence that people

859
00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:31,760
haven't been

860
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:36,079
reporting things because of stigma

861
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:39,200
and that's in 1973.

862
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:40,400
so

863
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:45,829
probably

864
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:47,200
a lot

865
00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:50,560
so

866
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:53,599
those were from today

867
00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:56,640
um the navy ones

868
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:59,119
i thought they were um

869
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:01,359
pretty

870
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:02,960
i don't know

871
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,560
those

872
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:06,160
just makes you wonder how many more of

873
00:37:10,470 --> 00:37:08,720
these are happening you know

874
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:10,480
and probably a lot and what's

875
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:12,960
interesting is it's the navy you know we

876
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:15,119
don't have air force pilots doing that

877
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:20,710
the again the preliminary

878
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:22,880
investigation which mr christopher

879
00:37:31,109 --> 00:37:25,440
mellon told us all those 144 instances

880
00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:31,990
you know

881
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:34,000
there weren't air force

882
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:44,630
what is that

883
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:46,550
uh john you can go back to the beginning

884
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:48,400
of this episode and check it out havana

885
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:49,440
syndrome

886
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:53,839
basically what direct energy weapon

887
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:55,920
symptoms to humans are

888
00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:56,720
so

889
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:58,079
um

890
00:38:01,349 --> 00:38:00,240
pretty much uh making a link between

891
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:01,359
that

892
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:04,000
and havana syndrome and

893
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:05,839
the uap effects that were on the

894
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:08,480
preliminary uap assessment radio

895
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:10,640
frequency

896
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:12,640
which all kind of shared the same stuff

897
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:13,760
so

898
00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:15,440
doesn't mean there's any

899
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:16,960
um

900
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:18,640
you know conclusion there but i'm just

901
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,109
so

902
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:28,790
yeah that's a great point josh for every

903
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:30,400
person that comes out i'm sure there are

904
00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:32,400
legions that are standing behind them i

905
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:34,560
mean i think it was ryan graves

906
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:37,920
um who said something along the lines of

907
00:38:43,990 --> 00:38:42,000
you knows something like 70 or 80

908
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:44,000
pilots

909
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:45,440
that could come out and talk about it

910
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:47,520
right now

911
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:50,000
you know or have at least had those

912
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:54,950
so

913
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:57,040
that being said that does it for that

914
00:39:01,990 --> 00:38:59,040
segment we have one more segment left

915
00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:02,000
today and it's

916
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:09,030
what the heck is that what the heck is

917
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:10,960
that

918
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:16,960
um play

919
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:17,839
some

920
00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:22,320
you know um

921
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:24,800
we're not trying to find the one

922
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:26,480
you know what i mean

923
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:28,960
we're just having some fun

924
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:33,599
and looking at some interesting videos

925
00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:35,599
so

926
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:38,160
this first one i'm going to share is

927
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:40,960
some of you might have seen it already

928
00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:51,589
i saw it first on

929
00:39:55,589 --> 00:39:54,079
um disclosure team actually disclosure

930
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:55,599
team shared it

931
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:57,760
and actually interviewed the guy so you

932
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:58,480
could

933
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:01,280
probably go back to his page finney's

934
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:03,200
page disclosure team if you wanted to

935
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:07,119
see a whole interview with the person

936
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:09,920
but it's pretty interesting and we are

937
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:19,430
um there's something going on here

938
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:30,230
it's a cube

939
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:51,830
that's a cube

940
00:40:51,840 --> 00:41:02,550
[Music]

941
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:10,309
interesting

942
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:12,870
well real nice

943
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:16,400
i'm on glenstone in springfield missouri

944
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:20,000
jet cubes spinning on an axis

945
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:22,800
flickering it's got lights around it

946
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:36,390
in the middle of the day

947
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:39,109
so that is that's an interesting one you

948
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:43,670
it could be

949
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:53,359
not too much of a balloon looking i

950
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,589
i mean it could be for all i know but um

951
00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:04,630
the lights on it so they're like

952
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:06,079
there's at least two times or like

953
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,000
flashlight it was a little different of

954
00:42:13,109 --> 00:42:10,240
a reflection

955
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:13,119
type uh light it was more of an actual

956
00:42:17,190 --> 00:42:15,520
light so i would say

957
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:17,200
you know actually as far as i know it's

958
00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:19,280
a ufo it's unidentified flying object

959
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:20,160
but

960
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:21,920
um if i had to guess if somebody's like

961
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:23,680
sean guess tell me what that is i would

962
00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:26,000
say probably

963
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:29,599
probably some sort of weird drone maybe

964
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:31,280
but could be wrong

965
00:42:35,829 --> 00:42:32,720
if you want to learn more

966
00:42:38,069 --> 00:42:35,839
go to disclosure team and check that out

967
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:38,079
he's got an interview with the person i

968
00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:40,079
found that interesting sorry you know i

969
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:41,119
didn't

970
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:43,599
so we just got like johnny

971
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:46,160
johnny john hunsley

972
00:42:49,109 --> 00:42:47,599
here to

973
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:49,119
um

974
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:52,079
i don't say cause trouble but

975
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:54,319
just give uh the

976
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:57,599
i can just tell it's the skeptic mindset

977
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:00,720
which that's fine you know you gotta

978
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:04,000
can't just buy everything that you hear

979
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:08,470
but um

980
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:10,240
as long as you play nice you can do what

981
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:16,150
so all right

982
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:18,800
and then we have

983
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:20,880
one more and this is an interesting one

984
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:23,280
because i found a picture on

985
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:24,960
from blue book

986
00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:27,520
that's exactly

987
00:43:31,839 --> 00:43:37,589
so let's check it out

988
00:44:11,910 --> 00:43:39,270
there's no sound down there oh there we

989
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,349
want to see that little white

990
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:18,069
guy flying around too

991
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:32,230
dang

992
00:44:37,520 --> 00:45:12,069
does the sound go up

993
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:12,950
oh

994
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:21,589
no let's

995
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:24,240
let let's let it roll

996
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:42,069
oh it's a blue book setting

997
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:44,470
interesting

998
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:46,400
that looks just like the little

999
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:59,589
man

1000
00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:01,510
it's hard to fake on these uh film

1001
00:46:08,309 --> 00:46:04,160
cameras too

1002
00:46:14,710 --> 00:46:08,319
it's at night i don't think that's a bad

1003
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:16,630
interesting one

1004
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:17,920
ftd

1005
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:23,829
and then

1006
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:25,119
let's watch this one again because it's

1007
00:46:40,829 --> 00:46:32,150
i'll find the photo i have that looks

1008
00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:43,589
wait are you saying the seagull had a

1009
00:46:59,589 --> 00:46:45,680
flashlight

1010
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:03,030
somebody tell that kid to shut up okay

1011
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:05,280
wow did you wait did you see that that's

1012
00:47:15,910 --> 00:47:11,190
we gotta watch that again

1013
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:18,470
gone then comes back out there what the

1014
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,790
that is crazy

1015
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:33,430
man

1016
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:39,670
you don't know any seagulls

1017
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:46,790
without it

1018
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:48,630
and there's claw

1019
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:49,930
claw

1020
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:58,309
man yeah this is a good video

1021
00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:00,160
you can see the power line there for a

1022
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:07,910
wow this is probably one of the best uh

1023
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:13,030
wow

1024
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:15,280
that's pretty good

1025
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:17,920
it's a pretty good one

1026
00:48:21,349 --> 00:48:20,000
mesmerizing

1027
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:21,359
actually

1028
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:24,079
so um

1029
00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:26,400
hope you guys like the show today

1030
00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:28,240
um we

1031
00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:30,240
went over a couple things went over the

1032
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:32,240
kind of

1033
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:35,280
connections or

1034
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:36,960
i don't but i can

1035
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:37,920
um

1036
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:39,920
john's asking for the

1037
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:42,160
more information on the video i

1038
00:48:47,349 --> 00:48:45,440
what i can do though is just share

1039
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:47,359
what i have with you john

1040
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:53,349
looks oh it says near paris

1041
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:55,839
april 2017

1042
00:49:10,230 --> 00:48:57,520
i don't know

1043
00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:12,390
says he's never seen anything comparable

1044
00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:15,680
so there is one from china but it's if

1045
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:18,079
it's the one that i'm thinking of this

1046
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:20,160
is a different one that we're that we're

1047
00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:23,040
looking at so but

1048
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:25,040
and this one says paris so but i'm not

1049
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:26,880
sure

1050
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,319
i'm not coming

1051
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,400
saying anything about these videos other

1052
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:32,880
than we're watching them

1053
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:33,690
that's it

1054
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:35,440
[Laughter]

1055
00:49:43,510 --> 00:49:41,430
yeah so you can watch it and figure it

1056
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:43,520
out if you want i'm definitely gonna

1057
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:45,920
maybe look more into it and try to find

1058
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:49,200
that blue book photo that looks just

1059
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:50,880
like it

1060
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:54,400
so because that would be pretty cool

1061
00:49:58,309 --> 00:49:56,480
comparison so hope you guys like the

1062
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:58,319
show covered the a little bit of the

1063
00:50:03,349 --> 00:50:00,960
vanda syndrome direct energy stuff uap

1064
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:03,359
radio frequency stuff just trying to

1065
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:06,720
draw some connections and talk about all

1066
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:09,280
those three because i think there are

1067
00:50:12,549 --> 00:50:11,680
some similarities do we solve anything

1068
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:12,559
no

1069
00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:13,920
we didn't but we got some more

1070
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:15,040
information

1071
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:18,000
on something that could eventually

1072
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:19,520
um

1073
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:22,319
be the culprit i believe

1074
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:23,359
so

1075
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:25,280
the other thing we

1076
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:28,000
looked at and watched were the two navy

1077
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:29,200
videos

1078
00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:32,000
um for those i'll try to trim them up

1079
00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:33,119
and maybe put them on twitter or

1080
00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:34,800
something otherwise

1081
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:35,839
you know you can find them on the

1082
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:37,520
archives i think i shared the link with

1083
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:38,800
you last time

1084
00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:39,599
um

1085
00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:41,119
otherwise you know

1086
00:50:45,829 --> 00:50:43,200
just watch this again i could use the

1087
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:45,839
views so

1088
00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:47,440
i don't even care if you fast forward

1089
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:49,920
just watch those but just do it over and

1090
00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:51,359
over again

1091
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:52,240
and then

1092
00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:54,880
we finish what uh what the heck is that

1093
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:57,200
and watch some ufo videos i had a great

1094
00:51:01,109 --> 00:50:58,559
time with you guys everybody thanks for

1095
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:01,119
being in the chat bob marley mr robert

1096
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:03,040
cowford we got to bring this guy back on

1097
00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:06,640
soon that's for sure oh sweet ten

1098
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:09,839
dollars awesome buy a burger

1099
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:12,720
done you don't have to tell me twice

1100
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:15,040
uh yeah hit the like button

1101
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:18,319
that that's a huge help um

1102
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:19,920
and subscribe if you haven't that would

1103
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:22,000
be great it'd be fantastic that stuff

1104
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,040
helps

1105
00:51:26,549 --> 00:51:25,200
um get this out to more people

1106
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:26,559
so and that's really all i'm trying to

1107
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:29,359
do is get this stuff out to more people

1108
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:30,480
um

1109
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:31,760
because i think i have a pretty good

1110
00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:33,839
take on stuff but ultimately that's up

1111
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:35,680
to you so

1112
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:37,839
thanks josh i appreciate it

1113
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:44,549
um shelly awesome to see you megan t

1114
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:46,160
yeah don't forget to like all that kind

1115
00:51:49,270 --> 00:51:47,920
of stuff subscribe john thanks for

1116
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:49,280
hanging out

1117
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:51,200
appreciate is good good to see you new

1118
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:53,520
face k42t eve

1119
00:51:56,309 --> 00:51:54,960
lionel

1120
00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:56,319
um

1121
00:52:01,109 --> 00:51:59,440
hopefully i'm not forgetting anyone

1122
00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:01,119
but i know this part's probably boring

1123
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:03,040
for people so

1124
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:04,720
eve clancy

1125
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:06,960
appreciate you

1126
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,069
again

1127
00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:14,720
james that's a new one james hadfield

1128
00:52:19,030 --> 00:52:17,760
awesome dope nose is back oh always a

1129
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:19,040
pleasure

1130
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:21,040
um

1131
00:52:24,790 --> 00:52:22,800
yeah so

1132
00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:24,800
until next time matthew hall what's up

1133
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:26,720
jay what's up

1134
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:28,400
um thanks for coming along i really

1135
00:52:34,510 --> 00:52:31,680
appreciate it and yeah until next time

1136
00:53:07,270 --> 00:52:34,520
peace out

1137
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:33,349
foreign